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roguetiger 01-22-2011 06:10 PM

New POC wave coming........
 
http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=9&itemid=16806


- Blowtorch
- General Hawk
- Steel Brigade Trooper
- Cobra Trooper
- Cobra Commander
- Jungle B.A.T.

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/index.php?m...ize=600&start=0

only image is of the Jungle BAT.

Cobra Trooper sounds interesting....hopefully its the Resolute mold ...

GoCards 01-22-2011 07:58 PM

Gezz, and just when I thought I was gonna be able to save my money. That Jungle BAT is a must.

Lt. Pinpoint 01-23-2011 07:50 AM

The Jungle B.A.T. does nothing for me. They looked better in their black mold, but I only say that because the B.A.T.'s were never meant as an ambush trooper; they were more of an in your face, you are dead kind of troop.

However, it would be nice to see another update of General Hawk, Blowtorch maybe, and the Steel Brigade Trooper is definitely an iffie.

As for the Cobra team, the last thing I need is a repaint of RoC Cobra Commander. But the Cobra Trooper, if done right could be an interesting Army builder.

Now, what I would like to see, are some of the older characters, such as Sneak Peak or Ambush. I would also like to see a few of the other Dreadnoks, such as Roadpig and Gnawgahyde released. Now those would be a must have for my collection.

SIC DETH 01-23-2011 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Lt. Pinpoint
The Jungle B.A.T. does nothing for me. They looked better in their black mold, but I only say that because the B.A.T.'s were never meant as an ambush trooper; they were more of an in your face, you are dead kind of troop.

However, it would be nice to see another update of General Hawk, Blowtorch maybe, and the Steel Brigade Trooper is definitely an iffie.

As for the Cobra team, the last thing I need is a repaint of RoC Cobra Commander. But the Cobra Trooper, if done right could be an interesting Army builder.

Now, what I would like to see, are some of the older characters, such as Sneak Peak or Ambush. I would also like to see a few of the other Dreadnoks, such as Roadpig and Gnawgahyde released. Now those would be a must have for my collection.

Here we go again. Its that time for repaints. The BAT? Yeah, they can keep it! (best believe it will be in the collection thow). Im on the fence with Hawk and Blowtorch. Cobra Commander? Not another one!!! Lt. Pinpoint, Im with you how about other figures like a new BulletProof or Scoop!?!

zedhatch 01-23-2011 08:43 AM

Jungle BAT is interesting but not "Must have" more like might get if I have the money. Hawk and CC, I have a ton of both, only if it's something really different or something. Cobra Trooper could be interesting depending on what exactly it is. Steel Brigade leave me cold, easy pass probably.

Da Talent 01-23-2011 11:36 AM

I'm sooooo freaking pumped over the jungle bat! Finally more green cobras for my collection!

Flatline 01-23-2011 11:42 AM

Lazy @$$ Hasbro
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Da Talent
I'm sooooo freaking pumped over the jungle bat! Finally more green cobras for my collection!

Have you seen the Images for him yet Cory......REPAINT!!!!!

dancontrino 01-23-2011 12:10 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flatline
Have you seen the Images for him yet Cory......REPAINT!!!!!

Just wait for them to show up at Family Dollar...and Ross :p

Cory could do a way better and interesting paint app on a BAT, but it is nice NOT to have to paint a figure.

Da Talent 01-23-2011 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dancontrino
but it is nice NOT to have to paint a figure.


That's exactly it Dan. I see what your saying Marcos, with it just being a repaint and all, so I definitely understand the grip. But to someone like me with a broad collection of green vehicles and green cobras. This is perfect.

Black Knight 01-23-2011 05:04 PM

The pic of the BAT looks like a poorly done custom. Hawk might be interestig, depending on the sculpt they use... not looking forward to another CC. The others we'll have to see.

roguetiger 01-23-2011 06:17 PM

Someone stated over on the JoeCustoms board that the reason its mostly repaints is cause they didn't think it'd go this far.. So we'll see. I'm still kinda hoping the Cobra Soldier is a repaint of the Resolute trooper so many like.. The CC could be the Jungle CC OR Arctic CC that was shown at the Joe Con a while back. Though on the Cobra Soldier the thought of the Shock Trooper being the standard trooper from someone high up in Hasbro that it MIGHT be a repaint of the Shock Trooper.. Supposedly Hasbro has the molds for a Airtight and Lifeline 25th sculpt somewhere as well. Something about a Jungle Heavy Duty as well.... And the Jungle Bat COULD be a early moc up cause the belt is missing on it and the head looks a little weird.

Prince Adam 01-23-2011 06:22 PM

They keep using that "we didn't think it'd sell" excuse and have been since they did the 25th series. The real reason is the H gives all the big money to Star Wars.

These all have the potential to be great but I'm sure only a handful will be while the rest are passable or custom fodder at best. That's how it's how been since the first wave and Hasbro is nothing if not predictable.

roguetiger 01-23-2011 07:42 PM

If your looking for new hands for the BATs Try this store for new hands.......http://hunterartworks.ecrater.com/p...socket-buzz-saw , http://hunterartworks.ecrater.com/p...machine-gun-arm , http://hunterartworks.ecrater.com/p...45/plasma-blade , http://hunterartworks.ecrater.com/p...renade-launcher , http://hunterartworks.ecrater.com/p...d-robot-saw-arm plenty of different arms for the BATs. supposed to work with both ARAH and 25th BATS.

cyko 01-24-2011 09:23 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prince Adam
These all have the potential to be great but I'm sure only a handful will be while the rest are passable or custom fodder at best. That's how it's how been since the first wave and Hasbro is nothing if not predictable.

I think that's the real issue. While mold recycling, repaints and generic base-bodies have offered some flexibility and new looks, the line as a whole has become rather stale. Every figure is a remake of a Duke, armored Cobra Commander or the MARS Trooper. The vintage ARAH figures, while less versatile for part swapping, were unique and you developed a love (or hate) for that particular character.

An example: that "cancelled" wave with the Whirlwind/green Range Viper should've been gold, but they had to throw in that damn JvC glider we've seen a million times with a mustachioed Tripwire as Ace! Lazy!! The jungle BAT will reel in money (Hasbro noticed the Black Major customs), but more bland figures made from parts we already have are going to be tough to sell. And stores seem to be tired of pegwarming GIJoe figures already.

Reverend Blood 01-24-2011 01:01 PM

that cobra trooper may cause my wife to leave me :D

At least if this wave has multiple troop builders I may be able to find one or 6

Tracker 01-24-2011 01:26 PM

I'm hoping the cobra trooper will be the resolute cobra trooper with articulated hands

roguetiger 01-24-2011 02:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by cyko
An example: that "cancelled" wave with the Whirlwind/green Range Viper should've been gold, but they had to throw in that damn JvC glider we've seen a million times with a mustachioed Tripwire as Ace! Lazy!!

Thats the Slipstream body not Tripwire. :p

Prince Adam 01-24-2011 03:07 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by roguetiger
Thats the Slipstream body not Tripwire. :p



Slipstream uses a Tripwire head with a mustache scribbled on it. ;)

Rambo 01-24-2011 03:14 PM

"Slipstream uses a Tripwire head with a mustache scribbled on it." -> FAIL Hasbro.

DrSyn 01-24-2011 10:31 PM

Could that Duke be the Artic Duke with a non-Movie actor head?

roguetiger 01-24-2011 10:55 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrSyn
Could that Duke be the Artic Duke with a non-Movie actor head?


There is NO Duke in that list......

DrSyn 01-24-2011 11:13 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by roguetiger
There is NO Duke in that list......



Whoops, brain wires crossed on that post of mine.

zedhatch 01-25-2011 05:10 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by roguetiger
There is NO Duke in that list......


Carefull it's still only a rumor, there is plenty of time to add one.

Tracker 01-25-2011 05:18 PM

wave 4 is on HTS right now :)

SIC DETH 01-25-2011 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tracker
wave 4 is on HTS right now :)

got mine!!!

roguetiger 01-28-2011 10:49 AM

As has been reported on other sites, Big Bad Toy Store had placeholder listings for yet another POC wave.

* Snake Eyes Temple Guardian
* Crazy Legs
* Croc Master
* Rock Viper
* Viper
* Iron Grenadier

Let the speculations begin again.

Reverend Blood 01-28-2011 11:00 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by roguetiger
As has been reported on other sites, Big Bad Toy Store had placeholder listings for yet another POC wave.

* Snake Eyes Temple Guardian
* Crazy Legs
* Croc Master
* Rock Viper
* Viper
* Iron Grenadier

Let the speculations begin again.


I see three names there that, if real, are going to kick my troop building into overdrive.

If they made a PoC Iron Grenadier, would it just re-use the 25th mold, or would they overhaul it like they did with a lot of the other PoC characters.

And I would love a Rock Viper in the vein of The original v2 rock viper, that just used the range viper mold.
That way we'd all have a shot at a getting that mold without being in a 7 pack, or a target exclusive that you can only get at select Ross clothing stores.

Lava Boss 01-28-2011 11:46 AM

Probably more repaints and kitbashes.

Reverend Blood 01-28-2011 12:21 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lava Boss
Probably more repaints and kitbashes.


i think i'd even be ok with that. I was in training for the majority of the 25th run, so it'd be nice to have a chance to build a couple of the figures i missed. If it's a standard viper, i hope they fix those hands.

roguetiger 01-28-2011 03:14 PM

rumor has it that these will be repaints from previous figures. CrazyLegs being the figure they were going to release back in the 25th/ROC timeframe that never saw light of day. meaning this wave is just fluff....saw that on another board and thought I'd throw it over here....But still some cool stuff IF they do it right.

zedhatch 01-28-2011 05:08 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by roguetiger
As has been reported on other sites, Big Bad Toy Store had placeholder listings for yet another POC wave.

* Snake Eyes Temple Guardian
* Crazy Legs
* Croc Master
* Rock Viper
* Viper
* Iron Grenadier

Let the speculations begin again.


Well-so much for new stuff, back to the same old grind again. witht he exception of Crazylegs of course.

DrSyn 01-28-2011 05:10 PM

I'd personally love it if the Viper was the IDW Viper.


A reuse of the 25th mold (Straight hands and original helmet) in any of the colours they've used on Vipers in the past wouldn't be bad either. Green and Grey anyone?

roguetiger 02-02-2011 02:53 PM

as MS reported on Joecustoms these are up for preorder at BBTS...http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/...915&mode=retail wave 3
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/...889&mode=retail wave 4

Da Talent 02-02-2011 08:39 PM

I pre-ordered some jungle bats. I really wish I had some new photos, so I could just decide to order the whole wave.... Or not.

roguetiger 02-02-2011 08:45 PM

And those looking for the Low Light wave..... I just found Low Light at WalMart here in Denver today.... :)

WildBill 02-02-2011 10:22 PM

Woot!

ender098 02-02-2011 10:31 PM

Hmmm....let me put in MY $.02

New Wave...only one that sounds like it's a keeper is Steel Brigade Trooper. I might pick up a Jungle Bat just to have one, but like someone said... REPAINT!!

As for Hasbro's failings, I think it's obvious and it will never change. They stock each wave with a case that has 4 Dukes, 4 Cobra Commanders, 4 Snake eyes, 4 Destros and 4 storm shadows and every 3rd box includes one Army builder such as Alley Viper or Shock Trooper. And then they want to whine about how sales suck,because no one wanted to buy the 10,000 ROC destros still on the shelf from 2009! Add to that, they take all the REALLY cool stuff and Target cancels it and we have to try to get one of the two that Ross gets in (Jungle Terror, Desert Cycle, flight pod and Sand Serpent) before it's all scooped up, or buy it on Ebay or from Canada (Desert Rockslide, Polar Sharc, Lava Pod)! While they flood the stores with over priced CRAP! (RIP ATTACK Vehicles! and $16 arctic Rockslides!)

to summarize, if HASBRO REALLY wanted to make GI Joe a Cash Cow, they would flood the market with cool toys and Army builders and cancel the crap they keep trying to shove down out throat!

Cobra Freak 02-02-2011 11:07 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ender098
Hmmm....let me put in MY $.02

New Wave...only one that sounds like it's a keeper is Steel Brigade Trooper. I might pick up a Jungle Bat just to have one, but like someone said... REPAINT!!

As for Hasbro's failings, I think it's obvious and it will never change. They stock each wave with a case that has 4 Dukes, 4 Cobra Commanders, 4 Snake eyes, 4 Destros and 4 storm shadows and every 3rd box includes one Army builder such as Alley Viper or Shock Trooper. And then they want to whine about how sales suck,because no one wanted to buy the 10,000 ROC destros still on the shelf from 2009! Add to that, they take all the REALLY cool stuff and Target cancels it and we have to try to get one of the two that Ross gets in (Jungle Terror, Desert Cycle, flight pod and Sand Serpent) before it's all scooped up, or buy it on Ebay or from Canada (Desert Rockslide, Polar Sharc, Lava Pod)! While they flood the stores with over priced CRAP! (RIP ATTACK Vehicles! and $16 arctic Rockslides!)

to summarize, if HASBRO REALLY wanted to make GI Joe a Cash Cow, they would flood the market with cool toys and Army builders and cancel the crap they keep trying to shove down out throat!



Maybe they are trying to get the line canceled? :confused:

Da Talent 02-03-2011 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ender098
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Your argument is so played. You should start a thread about distribution and case assortment on hisstank. Jeezzzz.

troopsofdoom 02-03-2011 02:16 PM

I think Hasbro is doing a good job with the POC line. It's definitely the best of the modern style figures. And the list of new figures looks really promising.

Snake Eyes & Cobra Commander:
We really don't need any more of these characters. (But at least we're not getting another Duke.) Although I am curious to see Cobra Commander get the POC treatment.

Blowtorch & Hawk:
Two characters I really like but there hasn't been a really good modern Hawk and Blowtorch yet, so I'm looking forward to these.

BAT:
The 25A mold isn't very good, repainting it isn't going to help.

Croc Master:
He hasn't had a good figure yet. Maybe we'll finally get one.

Crazy Legs:
"New" character! Wooo!

Cobra Trooper, Steel Brigade, Viper, Rock-Viper & Iron Grenadier:
I can't wait to see these guys get the POC treatment. These could be army builder gold.


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