It's just 10 episodes, right?

I'm not sure how I feel about all these guys getting knocked off. Yeah, people die in war and stuff, but Major Bludd was the 1st one to kinda irk me. I mean, we got no story of how cool (or uncool) he was. Stormy was fine. Bazooka was ok. Zartan, seemed kinda fast and weird. At least Gung Ho and Roadblock lived. The crossfire thing, apparently the Cobra Troopers can't aim worth a darn still. *shrug*

Decent set up if they want to do more. And I guess the 2 Joes that fell from the satellite had parachutes afterall.

So what else is new these days?

There's still a ten-minute finale to go.

there is some rumor going around the the finale isn't going to be shown on the net


9 & 10 also good :)

These were interesting. But I didn't find them as enjoyable as the others. Didn't like Zartan.. more of a thug than a master of disguise. The Marvel version was better, ultimately.

Getting killed off so quickly was okay as I couldn't stand this new personality of his. I agree with others here, why not kill off some Dreadnok.

Duke and Scarlett should not have survived that crossfire. Semi-automatic weapons verses pistols.. the troopers should've be able to get them both. Scarlett does a Matrix move, shooting accurately while being blown through the air from an explosion...

Destro, I simply do not like his "mask". It's too flexible, he's got a lot of neck.. really doesn't resemble the figures, any of them, other than a black suit and silver mask.

The troopers were not the only ones missing, Gung-Ho and Roadblock should've been able to hit the Baroness or massive Destro, or shoot through those computer consoles/desks.

Glad to see Tunnelrat had a parachute.

The deaths are the best part of Resolute. Now when there's a fight I'm worried somebody might die. Makes for an intense show.

I thought Resolute would make me like Duke. My favorite characters are usually based on what action figures I like the best and he just got his first good figure with Resolute. While I found him boring before, now I definitely hate him. What does Scarlett see in that arrogant quitter?

Why do animators insist on making Destro's steel mask flexible?

Stalker needs a haircut.

Really like the idea of the USS Flagg as their base of operations. Very effective for a mobile force like the Joes.

Agreed: the USS Flagg as the base of operations makes good sense.

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I honestly don't know where to start, one side of the fanbase says;
"Oi we want some realism in our fantasy adventure.. lets see someone get killed"

when someone writes and does something good, by killing off characters we're always going to get complaints aren't we... one persons junk.. is another persons treasure and all that ;)

For the most part I loved this.. everything GIJOE should be in modern day, theres a few things that really made me laugh, like over 20+ years of being in a terrorist organization and the troopers from cobra still can't aim? but i think we should be satisfied we have something thats way better than the film could ever hope to be..

I think the animation of them caught in crossfire, is being pinned down by heavy fire before outsmarting their way past the troopers.. at least this is how i see it, it was the same in many programs.. especially the A-Team.. :D

Back to resolute, i like it, not sure about them killing off major bludd without a backing story was a good idea but sonnelion has already mentioned that.

If this makes it's way to dvd i'll definately be getting it, the animation and movement i really enjoyed, the bit where they have to deal with those alley vipers, theres extra camera shake and heavy fire to add to the illusion they really are in trouble, some of the angles are really good too especially with Scarlett, it makes me appreciate her all the more now!! and i liked her anyway!!

Good stuff

FINALE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiIZRPxwHPk

All in all, it was okay. Interesting to see an adult-aimed Joe cartoon. But it felt condensed just an hour.

Spoilers

Spoiler:
Firefly's whole role was to shoot a missile, with a hologram maker, at the UN.

Flint was just base guy and LJ was nowhere to be seen. No scenes with Cobra Commander and any named Cobras.

NO BATS, that Resolute 5 pack is a lie, man! :p

I would have to agree, it was a good mini-series and I loved it, however it felt too short, maybe the DvD release will have alot more to it.

What happened to everyone else. Where was Beachhead, Stalker, Gung-Ho, Roadblock, and all the other joes they showed in the first 3-4 episodes. The should have made the finaly a little longer with a little more of a climax... the final episode was not as good as the rest.

Episode 11, Cool!

For what it was, five minute episodes, I thought the series was really good.

The HISS Tanks look awesome. If Hasbro makes Resolute HISS Tank and Scarlett toys, I'll be a happy man.

Looking forward to the DVD so I can watch it with good picture quality.

It was decent, but IMO still suffered too much from Cartoon-ism.
Super-staffed and equipped GIJoe team.
The Duke Show, essentially (aside from a brief ninja side story with Snake-Eyes).
Cobra Commander is still a boob.
Deus Ex Victory (target is supposedly locked on Washington yet Duke is still able to just change target with little trouble... OFF SCREEN to boot).

I dunno. It was definitely better than the original cartoon, but still... I was hoping for something more in the veins of Larry Hama's Joe comics.

I’ve been reading various forums about the Resolute deaths and I’m baffled. Comments like “Only for shock value,” “Killing for no reason,” “Excessive deaths,” etc. We’re dealing with soldiers in combat. People die in combat, that’s just the way it is. Personally I have no interest in watching something that pretends war is ok and nobody ever dies.

Bludd and Bazooka (and some Cobra Troopers) were the only ones to get killed. Two named character is a pretty minor death toll.

What about Storm Shadow and Zartan, you say? They’re not dead. Whenever it’s implied that a villain dies but you never see a corpse, they always come back. Guaranteed. :rolleyes:

This is fiction. In fiction, death happens for a purpose. Otherwise, it is only for shock value.

This has also been pointed out to me elsewhere:

So yeah.


If the gunshot didn't kill Zartan, the whole damn complex going kablooie sure did.

I'm not sure if we agree or disagree? :D

Wait... That means wounded Duke is really Zartan in disguise! :eek: Duke died in the explosion! :D

Just now watching the final episode. So far it looks good.... Springfield... but who is that wimpering viper? Ahh, good, he got the point.

Was that Covergirl pointing down the corridor, directing ppl during the evacuation of the Flagg?

Hrm, flying autonomous aerial vehicles? Kinda hope Springfield would put a tigher fight. Hrm, super HISS? I wouldn't mind those.. The Resolute Troopers look good even in the cartoon. Snake Eyes hack-n-slash time.. no bandage to the hand.. no fear of infection? Joes must be short on medics.

Fire fight in warehouse-like area.. reminds of DOOM.

Hrm, have a feeling .. yep.. Duke reset the thing to target Springfield... doesn't make sense.. it was already in lock on D.C. And Duke would require some time to learn the system.

Was that it?

Sounds like another episode is needed. Capsule the commander was in is missing, then end of story? No yahoo's and let's remember the fallen? Seems like it's missing 5 more minutes. Ending it says? I don't believe it.. not even any credits.

Well, my thoughts: too bad about the Flagg, it was a cool ship. They need a submersible carrier.

The Springfield battle could've been a whole lot better, and a whole lot longer.

A secondary array in the Micronesian archipelago was good. Was glad to see that.

So Duke studied up on the canon tech? That sorta explains being able to relock the weapon.

At least two HISS's had 788. Is this the .. I don't know what to call it.. some sort of base number ID for Cobra command? Anyway, certainly a nod to the original HISS number from the 80's.

Anyway, the final battle has a lot of potential. But it wasn't done. Too fast. Maybe as dio authors the final battle of Springfield could be remade much better, I think.

I was expecting to see an army of black BATs.

It was fine. I agree with everyone else that this has been too short. NOT that I could write it out for a 22 minute episode myself.

As I mentioned in the "Destro's Voice" thread, I skipped all the webisodes and just watched the whole thing on Cartoon Network last night. My thoughts:

I'll mention what I didn't like first:

1. Deaths: Pointless, unnecessary, shock value. Especially since Bazooka and Major Bludd were both killed off-screen within the first five minutes of the show! There was no point to that other than to tell us that this show is for grown-ups. I think the annihilation of Moscow would have made that point just as easily, without gratuitously killing off two major characters. As Jay pointed out earlier, death in fiction serves a purpose, otherwise it's just death for death's sake. However, although I disagree with Troopsofdoom on the inclusion of such deaths, I am in agreement with him that Storm-Shadow and Zartan could pretty easily be brought back. Unfortunately, the same can't be said for Major Bludd and Bazooka, who were both autopsied.

2. Some of the voices: The problem was that they only had like five voice actors working on this thing! Cover Girl only had one line, but she sounded like she had a Southern accent for some reason...? It was painfully obvious in a few scenes that Steve Blum (Duke) was talking to himself as another character. I was impressed, though, with Grey DeLisle as Scarlett, the Baroness, and Dial-Tone. They all sounded relatively different from one another! But -- what was up with Flint's "Batman" voice?!?

3. Snake-Eyes vs. Storm-Shadow: The fight was amazing, don't get me wrong; but it felt totally extraneous to the rest off the plot, and the flashbacks moved painfully slow. I feel like that side-story could have been left out to let the rest of the story breathe a little more.

4. Destro and the Baroness: They came across as kind of incompetent. That whole scene felt like something out of an episode of Sigma Six! But at least they didn't die, I guess...

5. The music: Pretty much a non-entity. I want music to pull me into a show, not lurk, unnoticed, in the background!!

6. The abrupt ending: That was it? No wrap-up or aftermath? And Duke's narration clearly said "On our return to the site...", while the read-out on the screen said "Honor returned to the site...", which, uhh... makes no sense.

7. The lack of "Yo Joe!!" C'mon, not even once??? I counted several opportunities where it could've been used!!

Surprisingly, that's about it. Considering this thing was written by one of my least-favorite comic book writers, Warren Ellis, that's pretty impressive! On to the things I did like:

1. Some of the voices: Though I felt that certain voices didn't fit, I really did like Steven "Spike Spiegel" Blum as Duke (though I obviously would've preferred the return of Michael Bell), as well as the voices for Destro, the Baroness, and Cobra Commander. And the guy playing Snake-Eyes nailed that voice! He sounded exactly like the original version! ;)

(Incidentally, Cobra Commander and Gung-Ho were both played by Charlie Adler, who also played Starscream in the Transformers live-action movie. And all those characters were previously portrayed by the late Chris Latta. Weird coincidence, or something more?)

2. The animation: Probably the very best 2D G.I. Joe animation ever! It was fast, fluid, and gorgeous!

3. The character designs: For the most part, with the exception of Stalker's unfortunate hair, everyone had a very nice update of their classic look. I would love a Resolute Scarlett figure! Destro had an appearance very similar to his Sigma Six character design, I thought, which was not a bad thing. On that note, though, I absolutely loved the Baroness's Sigma Six design. I wish they could have carried it over here, too. Also, Tunnel Rat's team seemed to be wearing outfifts that were a homage to the orange diving suits on the classic cartoon, which I thought was really cool. Oh, and the Flagg looked really neat. Too bad it blew up...

4. Scarlett + Duke: I am by no means a "shipper" (to use the technical term), but given a choice, I strongly believe Scarlett and Duke are a better couple than Scarlett and Snake-Eyes!!

5. The overall story: Except for the "more adult" slant, it reminded me of a classic Sunbow mini-series! Cobra has some huge new threat, and the Joes have to split up, going to different spots around the world, to put a stop to it, before coming together for the big final battle. Very neat!

In summary, though there were aspects I disliked, with the exception of the totally unnecessary killings of main characters, my other quibbles were minor. I would love to see this become a regular, ongoing series, providing they either keep Warren Ellis away from it, or reign him in a bit. Plus, if they could hire a few more actors (and throw in a "Yo Joe!" now and then), that would be nice!

I liked the mini-series (single episode?)

This would be good if it could be continued as an ongoing series. As far as the killing goes, this would not be something for children under 13.

Back in the day, Hama could always figure a way to bring "back" characters (Firefly got out of the locked freighter - Marvel 126) and Storm Shadow has already been killed at least once (oh that's right, he flipped into a trance right before three bullets went through his chest - Marvel 47).

SOOOOO...

The FLAGG could easily reappear, as could Major Bludd, Zartan and all the rest...

"Joe, how could this be?" you might ask.

A tagline or voice at the beginning of a new show saying, these events take place x time before the Springfield incident, or before the FLAGG incident, or whatever they would use to mark time.

Since they like flashbacks (as evidenced by the ninja flashbacks sequences), there could even be flashbacks to what precipitated the good Major's demise.

Not that I want more killing, but in the original Star Trek series, the guy you had never seen before beaming down to the planet was always the one who didn't make it to the first commercial break. Death, isn't that what greenshirts and blueshirts are for? Their deaths would still be tragic, but they would not affect the story arc...

My two cents...

for those who wondered how Duke changed target. He ask Scarlet for a tutorial on the control systemsw of the partical cannon on the flight to spingfield

I thought Snake Eyes was cool and the action and animation was great.
I hate when deaths happen off screen but not when they happens on screen.
My main dislike about this cartoon was that they removed the nuances and personality in the characters making it a more primitive tale alltogether. Adult does not just mean more sex, violence or swearing but American audiences are so starved for these things that they like any kind of product that comes along containing these things. People died all the time in the comics too but it was done in an plausible manner atleast in the marvel series, the devils due series tried to create the shock value a bit. And it did not work. Deaths should have a point even if that point is that death in war can be senseless and sudden. It is not just GI Joe that have gotten more stupid movies and comics in general have less depth now than they had only ten years ago. A comic about Spiderman and Doctor Octopus working to get eachoter to beg for mercy comes to mind. On the other hand death and sex does not mean that the story become more childish either but most often they do.
I also suspect for whatever reason that there was a last episode cut from the show. Either because the animation team could not finish it on time or because Hasbro dont want to pay for it.