Pretty freakin Bizarre....BIZARRE I say....People that post here who recieve lots of feedback on their pics like Outrider is because his pics are some of the best. You can tell there is a lot of thought and effort that went into it. And Tone Guns, he probably posts the most pics out of anyone, and he selects some of the coolest locations. It doesn't seem to me that there is a favoritsm thing going on. For instance, check out the new comer Recoil84 who jumps on board and his pics have received lots of attention. Again, its because they are well thought out and look great and he's only been over here for a month or so. And what about your star wars pic??? You posted that up in the forum for feedback, and it was well thought out and looked fantastic and everyone said so. Not because you were giving away free stuff. I personally do not have a lot of time so I don't even see all the pics that get posted and I am sure that is the same with most people that are a part of this forum. This site and forum is a hobby in a way, a place to get away from the normality of life. I wouldn't take it too seriously and let the lack of responses to your pics hurt your self esteem. Geez, thats kind of weird.

Well, what can I say? I think I couldn't understand well, all that long coments :p . My english stops to work at some point. All I now is that I'm one of the ones who have done more posts here. Actually as ToneGusRevisited I've 2.157 coments and I know that my early nick ToneGuns (wich I had to change, 'because I reached the maximus of my picture posts), was around + or - 1.300. What gives me more than 3.457 posts (Can someone bite this number?)!!! I never tried to be rude, or got involved in any mess or fight. I try to post on most of the pictures. If I think it is nice I say it. If I think it could be better I try to explain how. I'm a hard coment when things come to have focus problems. And I ask to people re-do some of their work. The last one that I gently asked for it was blaster_11, he did it ASAP for my pleasure. That wasn't an order just a request, he did it, and did it very, very well!!!

So far I can remember I was always nice to you as I'm with other members. You, BT, was one of thie first guys that posted on my pictures, but you had to left for something else, If I'm not wrong correct me. I'm always felt like your friend, as I'm Shane, Frank, Dave, Nemesis, Adriano (Gatilho), Prudence, Graham, and sorry for the ones that I didn't remember here. These guys I always find online, we chat along on MSN. Of course I've a, mimor problems chating with Craig, is 12h in my future :D. Shane and Frank are from my STB (Shit Talkin' Brigade). But I don't feel that I left someone outside the door. All the people who looked for me got my attention.

I'll not jump to help anyone here like my Brotha Frank did (this is a job for a real Marine, i can understand him ;)). But what I know about a picture of mine is that if it doesn't get coments it is 'cuz I need to work a little more hard, but it doesn't let me down. It's a motivation. Take a look at my pictures, if Shane (one of my best online friends) post on all of them. No. Somethimes I ask myself what I need to do to call his attention, but it doesn't make him a minor friend or it look like he doesn't like me. Our friendship have more than just coments on pictures. I was the one who put him and Frank in contact. The matter was a Blackhawk helo, from PTE.

I was trying to motivate you on your SW dio attempt. I know how hard is find a diostorie from the Star Wars Universe, or get a feedback. I know about 4 people. Me, 2 that I found on Rebel Scum (but they are not dio writers, what they do is photonovels) and you. And looks to me that you have alot of good coments on your SW ictures showed on this forum.

What always let me mad and I told it to Shane, Frank and G. People who post once in a while like saying, look I'm god, and left. People who come just to post pictures, but doesn't try to do at least a few coments to help others getting back.

I'll look forward for your pictures, your dios and your friendship. If you wanna talk more with me, do what I did: Ask people about their MSN adresses.

Congratulations to the winners. I hope they can show us some nice pictures of those great sets!

The more I thought about this the more underhanded BT's experiment seems to me. Does this make you feel like a bigger man, to point out individuals flaws and condenscend peoples reactions after your mischeivious ploy draws them out? . :mad:
Pretty petty and pathetic of you. Seems to me that you are still sore from that 'pic rating' thread discusion.
I had a feeling that there was something up your sleeve. Hope you feel proud of yourself, to burn a community of people across the globe that you have been a part of from the start. I am still relativley new here, and don't feel that your misgivings were pointed at me at all, but it still chaps my hide what you have done and I can only imagine how the people that your aingst was pointed at must feel.
And I don't think BT is done with this. I believe that his further intentions is to create disention amongst our ranks so to speak. Personally I think that our Moderators should ban him, because his only intention from here on out is to create more drama and I for 1 can't stand drama....

Let's keep going on with our hobby. If he want stay let him stay. We have real things to worrie about. For example, how take better pictures ;). He has freedom to speak as you and me Fantom. Maybe what he did is a bless to all of us. Maybe his intention was create a drama, but it can get us united and stronger.
I just understand why he was kind to me offering himself to get me 2 packs of Battle Droids and today he bad mounths me. :confused:

Got to say TG, it takes a big man to forgive and tyr-to-forget like that. On with the hobby.....

OK guys, here goes...............


Like everyone else, I followed this thread. How could we not? Even if we didn't want or need the figs, we are all here for the same reason; our love for all things 'G.I. Joe'.
As a woman, right from the start, I had a niggling in the back of my mind that something was 'up'. Not in the sinister sense, but let's call it 'woman's intuition'.....
As it stands I was right............and I was wrong.

When Blowtorch 'dropped the bomb' last night, like everyone else, I checked the thread. And I instinctly knew what was going to happen as a result. First off, I would like to congratulate the winners, enjoy your prizes and share your enjoyment with as many as are willing to see!

Now, onto the 'meat of it', as it were. I don't know how many of you guys have BT in your MSN messenger. I know how many I have in mine........it's most of you, including BT. I purposely delayed posting until I had a chance to speak with him directly. Which I have been doing for the past 2+ hours..............
I was the only one who took this route. Now I'm not saying it to pat myself on the back or anything like that. PLEASE don't think that! I'm trying to get ALL sides of this. And the fact that I am a woman, most likely that plays into a 'calmer head' scenario. I don't really know, and quite frankly, don't really care here.

What I did find out was that Blowtorch is really looking for equality of the complete and total sense. Is he neccessarily going to get it? NO, but no one ever does.....we don't live in that world of 'Perfect'. He relayed to me his concerns and I listened and gave him my thoughts as well. He knows that he's not 'popular' at this moment, but he didn't do it for a 'popularity contest'. Just as everyone here has their own thoughts, feelings and actions..........so does he. He feels slighted by some, but I suspect that at one time or another we all have felt this way. Should he have gone about it this way? That is not for me to decide, I'm not his mother or his wife...........but the fact remains that the 'horse is out of the barn'.

I have read the posts that he shared with me. And I can honestly say that I'm not sure precisely where the confusion lies. Those who posted to him have for the most part had positive and reassuring things to say. But perhaps he is looking for something else entirely. Again, this I don't know. If ANYONE wants the 'balls to the wall' truth, then you will have to IM him directly. I know for a fact that he will talk with anyone who contacts him. But know this! I will not tolerate anyone berating and condemning him based on this! As has been stated previously, if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all!!

I am not speaking for Blowtorch, I'm not speaking for Frank, or Craig or Graham or Luis or anyone else here............I am speaking only for myself. Take it as you wish to, I promise you that I will not be offended. But what we need to do is all step back and remember 'why' we all come here. To interact and enjoy other's who are similar minded 'individuals'. And that we can 'show off' once in a while, that's cool too!

I want to applaud you guys to the extent that I did ask you all to be respectful, no matter the outcome. And for the most part you have. THANK YOU! You continue to prove yourselves gentlemen, no matter what others might say to you! Do I agree with the 'tactics', personally, no-but I'm not him or any of you. So that point is moot.

You really want to know why he did it? Contact HIM personally...........yes, it really is THAT simple.

Graham and I have chatted, and we agreed that there will be no banning of anyone. This was an extreme means to an end to be sure, I don't know that I'd allow it again..........but that horse still isn't going back into the barn.

I will say this, in the future-and this is for EVERYONE!!!-If you feel that there is a problem, a disadvantage or a 'clique' going on, please, Please, PLEASE contact either one of us!! I really do love you guys here..........and I want what's best for the entire forum. I will listen and attempt to give advice. But I'm not a mind-reader, you need to TALK to me!! Moreso, you all need to talk to each other..........we are a very small, tight group here. Feelings get hurt, trampled and bruised. But like any group of friends or 'family'...........you talk it out and get over it.

Frank, you are a man with a heart bigger than the outdoors........rest assured that it does not go unnoticed.........
Shane, you are man who has a heart that beats true...........no one can take that from you.........
Graham, you are a man who knows how to lead, without being a dictator.........I applaud you.........
Craig, you are a man who has been blessed............no more need be said
Jay, you are a man who is filled with passion.............what a wonderful capacity......
Luis, you are a man who sees the things that others don't.........your purity of soul is enlightening............
Alan, you are a man who is filled with a deep sense of right and wrong that is severely lacking today, and as such sometimes gets misconstrued.......never lose sight of it..........

For all the rest of you..........you are all men because for all your 'manly deeds and ways'...........you all maintain a sense of childlike ideals...........and THAT is the best part of ANY MAN..................



I am glad and very proud to call all of you 'my friends'.................

I've been trying to think of what to say to all of this, cause its many sided. It's disappointing that I didn't win, but then again I don't contribute much to this site other than the occassional praise or comment, or witty thing I might have on the tip of my fingers. I do sympathize with Blowtorch, I know how frustrating it can be to not receive comments, but its a mostly free planet really, if someone doesn't want to they don't have to. It might not even be an exclusion or inclusion thing, people might just have nothing to say, I know I often don't. But you have to expect that people might just not say diddly, its gonna happen. It sucks but making a stink about it, isn't going to help, just annoy people further. Even if the mods made some rule about it, there's no way they could enforce it either.

Ender made a good point too, about how this site is about joe dios and not necessarily about making friends. I don't think anyone on this site has ever expressed an interest in my game except for Chaos and this other guy whose name I forgot, but still that was like a year and half ago. And perhaps I should be bitter about that too, but there's nothing I can do really, so why let it get to me. I suppose I shall have a philosophical moment and say that life is disappointing. But hey what I do know, I'm a youngun.

This is going to sound lame, but as joe fans, and writers, and artists and what not, we have a responsibility to be the good guys or good girl in Gen Scarlett's case. Most of grew up with GI JOE and I'm sure that it installed a set of values on us all, hey I'm not even American and I still feel a sense of pride for American soldiers. This would be the perfect time to quote Stormshadow, but I got nothing. Anyway I hope we can all just get past this and continue on our merry little way with the posting of joe pictures and the loving of them :p

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Wow!! I was never in the running for the blueshirts? If I had feelings I'd actually feel hurt. Since I don't, next thread please!!!!

I'm still not sure why all this happened, but at the end of the day, hopefully, only good will come from it. Did I feel personally insulted by what Blowtorch said? Not really, although I was surprised, and I did feel the need to clarify a few of the points he raised, which I did in my previous post. Do I think he should be banned? No. I hope he can make his peace and continue to be a valued contributor to this site. Do some people have the right to be upset by BT's tactics? Absolutely, and they have forcefully argued thier cases. You have to applaud Frank in particular for being the stand up guy that he is in saying what he had to say.
At the end of the day, I'm not here to judge anyone. We all make mistakes and do dumb things, and I am willing to forgive and forget for the benefit of this site and everyone who comes here. I sincerely hope we can put this one "to bed" and get on with the business of enjoying the hobby we all love and the friendly atmosphere that brings us here everyday.

Yikes... I completely missed this thread. Good thing I did because I probably would of been passed over anyway. :D

I've been too caught up in a silly online game I've been playing to pay attention to the goings on at JoeDios lately.

On a completely different and bitter note, I never once saw the Infantry pack at retail. Still pisses me off to this day. I hate scalpers.