I'll elaborate. I never owned the set new. I picked up two loose at a toy show and their wrists joints were "frozen" (immobile). I tried the freezer thing. I tried hot water. Cold water. None seem to loosen them. And eventually when I tried to turn their wrists one broke off and one on the other figure tore so much that the only thing to do is glue it or try and get it out. Problem is those are the early Duke mid-forearm joints. You can't even hope to buy some aftermarket hands to replace them. In theory I could replace the entire fore am? Or just break the arm at the elbow trying!