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08-02-2007, 09:31 AM
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do filecards influence your world
i know that a lot of you say that your world is based mainly on the comics. those who say that also go by the filecards. im wondering in your joe world is life line a pacifist? in the cartoon he was, in the comic he was, but in his filecards he talks about fighting and they talk about his weapons. i dont think hasbro made him to be a pacifist, otherwise he would not have had a gun. doc was the pacifist. also wondering if anyone has ever noticed that gung ho has outranked duke a few years. in 92 he became 0-9 or sergeant major, duke was still 0-8 or master sergeant. duke never made it to 0-9 until 97 while gung ho maintained his rank until 97. also has anyone noticed that all fighter pilots have a rank of at least w-4 or warrant officer, and most of the new member after 97 all had higher ranks then the old joes. just some food for thought as i spent all day yesterday looking through every file card and making the correct way the ranks would really be, ill post the results later.
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08-02-2007, 10:09 AM
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Wow I never realize that lehsreh.... Guess I gotta read those file cards more closely!!!  Scarlett & I take pieces from all sources but, most we make up from our minds!!!  It will definately be interesting to see what your research turns up!!! 
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08-02-2007, 10:22 AM
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yeah, and just in case your wondering, flint outranks duke still today 
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08-02-2007, 06:47 PM
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yeah, and just in case your wondering, flint outranks duke still today 
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hay lehsreh, this pic said a lot,about who outranks who,,lol
and your winner is FLINT.
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08-02-2007, 06:50 PM
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i some times follow the bios on the cards.. if it fits in my joevers.
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08-02-2007, 07:40 PM
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i dont follow them myself, ill probably promote a few and demote a few. i made the list today from the top all the way down to anyone who has been at least E-7, sergeant first class. ill post it tomorrow, there are a lot of surprises, at least to me. just a hint, hawk is outranked by colton, he outranks flagg, but there is someone else who outranks hawk. tomorrow, same bat time, same bat channel.
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08-02-2007, 12:14 PM
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Wow I never realize that lehsreh.... Guess I gotta read those file cards more closely!!!  Scarlett & I take pieces from all sources but, most we make up from our minds!!!  It will definately be interesting to see what your research turns up!!! 
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Yes, as Flint stated, we read the filecards and do pull some things from it.....but on a whole, we started 25 years ago to switch things up........so filecards, cartoons, comics..........makes no real defining difference to us, we pick and choose!!
"Gotta think OUTSIDE the box people!!!!!" 
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08-02-2007, 12:54 PM
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The filecards are pretty important to me. When I first got into Joe collecting, the filecards were the only Joe story I had, as the cartoon didn't air here at that time, and I didn't know about the Marvel comic until later. But nothing is set in stone. Any aspects of the filecards or comic I didn't like, I just ignored. The cartoon, when I eventually did see it, had no influence on my Joeverse at all, as I prefer the realistic side of things rather than the fantasy side.
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08-02-2007, 02:31 PM
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It's interesting to get everyone's "take" on subjects like this-I wish I had General Scarlett's and Flint's imaginations!  I'm too "retentive" probably!
One other thing that might interest you guys-I made my younger brother change ALL his figure's Codenames because I had the REAL Joes.  He did a good job-his Joes were a joint Navy SEAL/Marine Recon Team called WOLFPACK!
He made Torpedo his leader-"Lt.JG Sanderson",Duke became "The Gunny",Shipwreck was "Chief Wilson",and he gave Rock 'n Roll Breaker's Com gear and called him "Data"-this was years before Star Trek:TNG. 
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08-02-2007, 03:57 PM
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The filecards do play a pretty big role for me, especially with all the characters who got little to no comics exposure and therefore don't have another source to draw from in exploring their personalities. The Lifeline: pacifist thing is a good point, though -- v1 having that pistol totally went against his character unless he only uses it for warning shots or something... Remember, though, when looking at filecard descriptions of his character that the RAHC and Anti-Venom versions are actually a different guy...!
With the ranking I tend to ignore the filecards now since so many characters' grades have jumped all over the place, particularly the huge jumps in '97. I go by the setup the comics pretty much use too, which is the notion that the GI Joe team as a unit has its own command structure which doesn't have to strictly follow grades from the other branches of the military. I ultimately refer to the organisational chart from DDP's Battle Files, which suits my history of growing up with Action Force since Flint outranks Duke! 
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